So where does Joe Dumars rank amid all the other GMs? A case can be made to lump him in with a few different groups: winners with some bad decisions, living off reputation, or ex-players who stink.
That puts him somewhere between 8 and 23 on the list of GMs. I think he fits best in the "faded glory" group, above all the others at #12 because he won a title. I'd put him below the Smith/Ferry/Ainge/Nelson group because he hasn't made a finals since 2005. The recent history is just too terrible to put him in the top 10. Taking a more pessimistic view that he got lucky to win that title, you can stick him in with the former players in the 20s. If he was handed the title team in 2004 instead of the 2000 roster, he'd be a lock for this group, if not worse.
So the question remains. Is being the #12 (or so) GM in the NBA good enough reason to keep the job?
I say no. Fire Joe Dumars!
Monday, March 1, 2010
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Unless, of course, he's number 5, which he is.
Most recent trip to the finals is a terrible way to measure talent. Is Sasha Vujacic a better player than Paul Pierce because he's been to the finals more recently?
I'm not ranking on "most recent trip to the finals" but on what they've done since going to the finals. The other guys have had less time to react of course, but they haven't run their teams into the ground either.
"Is Vujacic a better player than Pierce because he's been to the finals more recently? " When Pierce is old and washed up, relatively crappy young players will be better. See: your argument about Payton and Malone. By that I mean, Joe might have been good a decade ago, but hasn't shown any managerial "talent" since.
If you're going to kill Kupchak for Payton/Malone, you'll have to apply the same logic to Dumars and McDyess.
I'm not killing Kupchak for Payton/Malone. I was correcting your dates, not making a statement about the move. See my other post.
Joe wasn't hired yet a decade ago.
I didn't realize that people's minds and managerial abilities start deteriorating after 40. Too bad 98% of managers in our workforce are over the hill. No wonder we're in a recession.
Now you're being deliberately obtuse.
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